Hall & Johnson Admit Massive "Live" 9/11 MSM Video Fakery!

Hall & Johnson Now Admit  Massive MSM Live Feed  9/11 Video Fakery!   :-) .


Part 2 of Richard Hall's 2010, 6 part interview concerning 9/11 live media fakery, with Andrew Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsxOhuMQgdE

Post update: [ 06/18/17]: Whoops! It appears I made a mistake with these recent two posts about the Hall/ Johnson interviews. My mistake was to assume that the 2015 video I saw on Youtube was the original. That being the case, I had then thought "well, there is hope for messrs. Hall/ Johnson, yet", as they both seemed quite fair in their analysis of "September Clues" In other words, I assumed that Hall had  now changed his mind and rejected his own 2012 "holographic plane image" theory. 

However , further research has revealed that the 2015 Youtube video had actually been originally posted at Hall's site in 2010, meaning that while at first he had in fact first pretty much accepted Simon Shack's various observations,  later  [2012]  he'd decided that Mr Shack was wrong. 

His later retraction can be seen/heard here.  All I have to say about Hall's 2012 retraction is that it is far from satisfactory, more of an obfuscation than anything else, as he hardly even bothers to address Shack's primary observations that he [Hall] had earlier agreed with. For example, the "matrix shot" issue, which he conveniently dismisses while only referencing NBC's contradictory Fl.175  footage, when the "matrix shot " issue involves  all five stations, not just one.   In conclusion, whereas before I'd wrongly held out hope for Hall/Johnson, I now understand that both of them are "way beyond help".  And so it goes :-) ,Obf.

In my previous post, I brought your attention to the fact that researcher Richard Hall had in 2012, with his holographic plane theory, completely contradicted his own earlier [2010] statements about the plane paths not matching-  as he had  earlier concluded [2010] that researcher Simon Shack had already clearly demonstrated that the plane paths of Fl. 175 did not in fact match up in the "live" 9/11 footage; as indeed I had myself pointed out back in 2012, shortly after Hall's hypothesis was first made public.

After studying the relevant footage in part 3 of 6 of Mr Hall's 2010 interview with Andrew Johnson [who appears to have been the person responsible for pointing out at that time, the incongruity of the flight paths within the original "live" broadcasts ], I decided to delve a little further into Mr. Hall's entire 6 part interview with Johnson,  which originally appeared at Mr Hall's website: "9/11 TV footage and amateur video analysis"., back in June 2010.

  "What Gives"?

And what do I then find, in part 2 [of 6] of the interview [video at top of this post] :

1: Hall Again Admitted That Plane Paths Do Not Match

First of all, at the very start of the video segment, Mr Hall again re-confirms the disparity of the plane paths, [as he does in more detail in part 3 of the interview], as he reviews a segment of Simon Shacks "September Clues" movie that clearly demonstrates 2 different plane paths seen on [even] just one station , NBC. [Let alone the fact that the paths do not match station to station.

Of the two contradictory NBC sequences Hall says:

" This to me is the smoking gun" [at 3.00 to 3.05] and: "that is actually from the same camera, so they've actually removed all of the background from that shot" [3:20-3:30].

See my previous post for more on the plane path issue.

2: Onwards and Upwards: the Hall/Johnson Analysis of "The Matrix Shot"

Starting at 6mins and 30 secs in the interview [posted above], and ending at the 8 mins 20 sec point, Messrs Hall and Johnson then review what Mr Shack had called "the Matrix Shot", i.e. Shack's astute observation that the exact same perspective view of the towers is seen inserted into the live feeds of all 5 MSM networks [ ABC, CBS,CNN, NBC, Fox], but, depending on the network, all 5 showed different back grounds and foregrounds, which again means that the imagery shown "live" that morning cannot have been genuine.

The "Matrix Shot": Hall/Johnson Admit Faked "Live" MSM Imagery and Network Collusion:

Hall:

"..the matrix shot"......"all 5 networks appear to have used the same shot, but they've tried to make it look different, different colors, different foregrounds on there, different backgrounds.."

......and then:   ".. so this suggests that all five networks were colluding somehow..."

Johnson: " That's what it looks like."

Moving On: The Original, "Live" MSM Tower "Collapse" Imagery:

 At this point, An Important Question For Hall/Johnson etc.:

So, if they both admitted, all the way back in 2010, that the original "live" broadcast  9/11 imagery they reviewed in the show was not in fact genuine, but  instead consisted of  poorly composited fake imagery made to look like genuine imagery to the casual observer, and, although none of the footage examined in the interview showed the two actual tower "collapses" as shown on TV that morning, why would they [and many others] still, [as of 2017], blithely assume/insist  that any actual, existing, archived  MSM "live broadcast imagery " of the two tower collapses themselves was in any way genuine?

Two Important Facts That Hall/Johnson May Not  Be Aware Of :

 Fact [1] :  While all 5 networks [ABC, CBS,CNN, NBC, Fox] broadcast wholly faked imagery of a plane hitting WTC2 [as Hall/Johnson originally seemed to agree] ................

.[.......see Simon Shack's "Synched Out" analysis of the original, "live" plane hit footage..................]

......... Fact [2]: Only 1 of each of the 5 networks actually claims to have captured the "live" collapse of a WTC tower.

Specifically:

The WTC 2 "Live" Collapse Footage:

The first tower to go [WTC2] was caught "live" only on NBC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkp9AAhS6Ls

ABC, CNN, CBS and Fox all mysteriously missed that allegedly "live" event [at least it's missing from the official on-line "live" archives for those 4 networks]

Question, dear reader : does this NBC "live" sequence really seriously  look like genuine live imagery to you?

The WTC1 "Live" Collapse Footage:

The second tower to go [WTC1] , was seen "live" only on CNN:
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul--oYht2RE

ABC, CBS NBC and Fox all mysteriously missed that event [at least it's missing from their official on-line archives for these 4 networks].

Question, dear reader : does this CNN "live", on archive sequence, complete with miraculously timed camera "zoom-ins" [that end at the exact moment that the tower starts its collapse],and 3x camera/viewpoint  live studio edits in the space of around 17 secs of a totally unexpected collapse,  seriously  look like genuine live imagery to you? 

See also Simon Shacks  excellent "The "WTC Collapse" Animation Sequences" presentations of the tower collapse imagery

Attention!,  Messrs. Hall and Johnson [and others too numerous to mention]:

That's It!

There Ain't No More Original, "Live" , Archived On-Line, Broadcast, WTC1 & 2  Tower Collapse Imagery!

That's right, no other original better quality, less fake-looking, "live" broadcast tower collapse imagery of the demise of WTC1 and 2 exists! [only those two short sequences on archive and displayed/linked to here, above]

Again, [in case you missed it  the first time :-) ] : these two clips above are the only two extant, official, live, MSM recordings of the "collapses" [or whatever you want to call them], of WTC 1 and 2, that can be found within the official MSM on-line archive for all 5 US TV stations.

Any/everything else Hall, Johnson [or yourself, dear reader], have seen to date regarding those collapses, be it photo or video, is simply not part of the original "live" MSM broadcast record, and only first appeared hours, days, months, or even years after the events themselves.

For example, this somewhat famous photo of WTC1, [used by various 9/11 "researchers" to "prove" that the towers were  destroyed top-down by this, or by that], which , according to online reverse-image search app. "TinEye", did not even appear until 2007 in an on-line newspaper in the far east [of all places], has nothing to do with the original "live" broadcast tower collapse imagery of WTC1's collapse, as shown "live" on CNN [see above] that morning:

         Fig. 1. A supposedly "genuine" image of  WTC1 apparently exploding, "top-down".

Important Questions For Hall, Johnson Etc.:

1] Are Messrs Hall and Johnson and associated now going to  claim, with straight faces mind you, that either of those two official MSM sequences of the collapses of WTC1 and 2 shown above are somehow genuine?

2] Or, perhaps, that a photo  of WTC1 collapsing/exploding that appeared mysteriously in a Far East online newspaper fully 6 years after the event [fig.1] is  genuine,  while the original live NBC and CNN sequences of WTC1 and 2's collapses are fake?

3] Or perhaps [shock, horror, egads ! ] , that the  2 video sequences of the tower collapses , and the photo above, plus others like it, are all fakes?


Inquiring minds want to know ! :-) 

Regards onebornfree[atyahoodotcom]

Addendum: 

And while we're on the subject, here are two more excerpts from the original "live" MSM broadcast  feeds of the morning of 9/11 that also clearly illustrate the fact that that original "live" footage we saw that day was not in any way, shape or form, actual live imagery, but instead , poorly fabricated digital imagery produced entirely via computers, pre- 9/11, then broadcast as "live" imagery on the morning of 9/11:

1] "The Incredible Moving Verrazzano Bridge: [ bridge is  impossibly big, plus it still moves while background/foreground remain stationary]:


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hyvcxYXRTA

2] "The Spinning Towers" : [towers magically turn to face the camera lens as it circles around them]:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEmVPCRDidk

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Richard Hall Refutes His Own 9/11 Holographic Plane Hypothesis!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wag2XVRR5Dc      [youtube 2015]
[The whole 6 part interview originally appeared in 2010 here     ] 

Post update: [ 06/18/17]: Whoops! It appears I made a mistake with these recent two posts about the Hall/ Johnson interviews. My mistake was to assume that the 2015 video I saw on Youtube was the original. That being the case, I had then thought "well, there is hope for messrs. Hall/ Johnson, yet", as they both seemed quite fair in their analysis of "September Clues" In other words, I assumed that Hall had  now changed his mind and rejected his own 2012 "holographic plane image" theory. 

However , further research has revealed that the 2015 Youtube video had actually been originally posted at Hall's site in 2010, meaning that while at first he had in fact first pretty much accepted Simon Shack's various observations,  later  [2012]  he'd decided that Mr Shack was wrong. 

His later retraction can be seen/heard here.  All I have to say about Hall's 2012 retraction is that it is far from satisfactory, more of an obfuscation than anything else, as he hardly even bothers to address Shack's primary observations that he [Hall] had earlier agreed with. For example, the "matrix shot" issue, which he conveniently dismisses while only referencing NBC's contradictory Fl.175  footage, when the "matrix shot " issue involves  all five stations, not just one.   In conclusion, whereas before I'd wrongly held out hope for Hall/Johnson, I now understand that both of them are "way beyond help".  And so it goes :-) ,Obf.


 Richard Hall Eats His Own  Words ?

Starting at 3:58 of the above video [first published on 06/18/2010 on his own site, and then at Youtube June 9th. 2015], and using clips taken directly from Simon Shacks "September Clues"   series,  Mr Hall along with  interviewee Andrew Johnson, revealed the different, contradictory flight paths of Flight 175 shown in the various MSM and "amateur" videos, to his viewing audience.

At around 4:40 in this interview with Mr Johnson we have him [Johnson] stating:

 "....you get different trajectories for the plane....If this is the same plane, then you should be able to determine what the trajectory is from the video clip".

Hall then agrees with Johnson, and in doing so directly contradicts his very own, subsequent "holographic plane image" hypothesis first aired publicly in his own May 19th 2012 "NEW 9/11 Video and Radar Analysis"

Some Recent History:

On November the 18th of November 2012 I published an exhaustive [tedious?] 4 part refutation of  Mr Hall's hypothesis that a holographic plane image had been used on 9/11.

Mr Hall's "Reasoning" = Matching Flight Paths:

Briefly, his whole hypothesis  rested on the idea that if all of the plane trajectories in the various 9/11 videos showing Fl.175's approach and strike on WTC2  matched, then that "proved" that :

1] The videos were all genuine.

2] if the flight paths matched, that because the plane images in  some of the videos defied known laws of physics , then they could not have been of a real plane, so "therefore" [he, Hall, assumed "logically"] , a single, fake, moving  plane image was projected holographically by a "cloaked" [i.e. invisible to the live camera] plane flying close alongside the projected holographic image. [Yes, really :-) ]

Mr. Hall then tried to demonstrate in his video that all of the flight paths for 20 odd video clips of fl. 175 matched ["therefor" all of that footage was genuine].

{Hint: the flight paths he so carelessly analyzed never did match}.

What My Refutation  of the Hall Hypothesis Tries To Demonstrate:

If you bother to go back and look at my own, long, 4 page refutation of the Hall hypothesis, you will clearly see that I demonstrate  [ as  Messrs Hall and Johnson originally appeared to agree], that the flight paths of Fl.175 do not match even within his own video presentation of his theory.

Hall Eats His Own Words

So now it seems that Mr Hall agreed  with Mr Shack and myself back in 2010 [when this interview was first aired on Hall's site], but later [2012] "ate his own words" to come out with his own grandiose, wholly contradictory, holographic plane image idea of 2012

 Is Hall's Backpedaling Important?  

Why did  Messrs Hall  and Johnson originally publicly state [2010] that the plane paths did not match, only to later [2012] emerge with a bogus holographic plane theory which almost exclusively relied  on Hall "proving" that the plane paths  matched, even when it had been obvious to themselves back in 2010, that they did not in fact match? 

 What's Next?

So what's next? Are we ever going to witness the gloriously comical sight of Messrs Fetzer and  Reynolds,  the two most prominent supporters of the Hall hypothesis, publicly "eating their own words" regarding Hall's  2012 holographic plane hypothesis?. Let alone Messrs Hall  and Johnson, who certainly do not seem eager to draw attention to  their entirely contradictory statements on the issue.

Will Pigs Fly?

Personally, I would love to see this. However, if my own personal experience with these  persons is anything to go by, the egos of at least two of these three "gentlemen"  are way to big to ever acknowledge publicly that the whole holographic plane hypothesis was bunk right from the "git go", so I'm not holding my breath on this issue, that's for sure :-) .

But maybe, just maybe..... "pigs will fly", after all, it's happened before, as this photo clearly shows :-)  :

                               "Genuine" photo of 3 flying pigs.

And so it goes.......

Regards, onebornfree[atyahoodotcom]

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ABC's Magic "Spinning Towers"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEmVPCRDidk

[N.B. The ABC News clip above is excerpted from the official, on-line television archive for 9/11. ]


I'll say it again :" Nothing we saw on TV that morning "live from Manhattan"was genuine "live footage.""

In support of this "outrageous" claim, here's a video I recently came across that examines some original "live" broadcast 9/11 footage from US mainstream [nationwide] outlet ABC, called "The Spinning Towers".

Although I'm not a member there, I still visit Simon Shack's " September Clues" forums on a daily basis, and had not seen this particular, very simple analysis posted there before.

Maybe Simon and associated don't think much of it , or maybe it's there somewhere and I missed the post. I don't know at this time.

My Own "Logic" Applied:

I thought about it and concluded that although the twin towers sides would not change size relative to each other quite as obviously as the extreme distant objects in the shot move from left to right in the sequence- as the helicopter allegedly moved right to left across the scene [because those towers are closer to the camera], that even so, there should still be enough of a visible change in their size relative to each other from the camera's perspective so that the partially exposed, furthest  right side of the tower nearest the camera would either narrow significantly, or completely disappear from view, given the change in viewpoint of the heli-cam.

ABC's Magic Spinning Towers:

However, as  can be clearly seen in the video below, while the [presumed] helicopter circles the smoking towers right to left [as evidenced by the left to right motion of all of the background scenery],  the same tower sides somehow [magically]  constantly turn  to  face the camera lens, so that they are in fact always seen from the exact same angle/perspective throughout the sequence, despite the change in camera perspective caused by the continual movement of the helicopter across the scene right to left, as if the towers themselves were turning in place to always face the "camera" lens:


Conclusions:

Logical conclusion? [For myself, anyways :-) ] :

 The entire ABC sequence above was faked, pre- 9/11.

 That is: the background, the foreground, the smoke, the towers, the helicopter perspective- all fake [i.e. 100% fake digital footage poorly manufactured/prefabricated, with 2nd or 3rd rate software on computers, prior to 9/11, then broadcast on 9/11 as being genuine live imagery] :-(  .

Questions/ Lies

Questions you might consider asking yourself, if you agree that the footage is fake "live footage":

1] If this scene, broadcast on 9/11 as live, right after the alleged second plane {Fl.175} struck WTC2, was in fact faked beforehand, why would you believe that any part of the rest of ABC's "live broadcast" of 9/11 , including the actual second plane into WTC2 sequence, and including all tower collapse imagery, was actually genuine?

2] If ABC was broadcasting faked "live footage" on 9/11, why would you believe that any of the other 4 mainstream national networks [ NBC, Fox, CBS and CNN] , which all showed almost identical imagery to that seen on ABC that morning, was in fact genuine?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P9k7Et4zUk

Only you, dear reader, can answer those two questions. Have fun!

Regards, onebornfreeatyahoodotcom